TSN: Darren Dreger and Ray Ferraro discuss Toronto Maple Leafs pending UFA forward John Tavares and what his next contract might look like.
** Transcribed by NHLRumors.com
Dreger: “So it looks like he's got a few years left, right? He's 34, he just turned 34 a while ago. You can't insult him with an offer, but you also realize you can't pay him The price is close to $11 million.
So what's fair, based on what you know about John Tavares now. What do you think are fair, non-abusive contract terms, money, for Tavares?
Ferraro: “Well, if, because I'm the general manager.”
Dreger: “Yes, you are.”
Ferraro: “I said, well, we won't discuss it until June because we don't have to. What if, for example, if John scores three goals in the second half, there are zero signs of that? Like in The same age you start is I would start thinking about this.
Dreger: “Okay.”
Ferraro: “I think there's a couple of things at play here. One is, he's not a free agent per se because they're already paying him $11 million a year. They don't have to find the money to pay him. Realistically, no matter how much they pay him, they're going to save on the salary cap so I think that's it.
I think it's an overlooked decision and I hear a lot of people say 'oh yeah, but they have to do it, they have to find that money on the cap. No, they've thought about it. The question is whether it's $6 million or $8 million, or whatever it is.
The second part is, I think I'm going to go to him and say, 'John, you're never going to play for anyone else, but I can only give you a two-year deal. My hope is that I've built enough trust that I can provide him with a role model, like the late Tim Wakefield of the Boston Red Sox. I think he signed 12 one-year contracts in a row, and he said, they told him, you're never going to pitch anywhere else.
So if I gave John $8 million in two years, I would be much more comfortable than if I gave him $8 million in four years.
Dreger: “Okay.”
Ferraro: “And, and, but the thing is, in two years, he's coming. I want to set up an outline. We think you have X years left at your current level. I can, I can pay you for two years now money. If you want four, I can't give you four.
Dreeger: “Yeah, you have to have combinations, right? So, you know, Marner is an unrestricted free agent as well. So you know, if you can get those two guys in and around the 21 factory. I Meaning, it depends on the tenure of the Tavares family.
Ferraro: “But, but, yeah, the word, honestly, it's not the money that I really care about because I think in most cases, the players and the teams are coming, like Tavares and the Maple Leafs Would understand what the dollar figures look like I think they can do that.
I think in most cases the team gets the money. That terminology, you can't, you can't wrap your head around it and say, oh, yeah, I wouldn't worry about, what everybody says is the last year of the contract. What if this is the last three years of the contract?
Dreger: “Agreed. Yes.
Ferraro: “Like, what if you're stuck with an albatross, and that's not specific to John, it's specific to anyone who's 35, 36, 37 years old. The game doesn't slow down.”
Dreger: “Yes.”
Ferraro: “One thing I will say about John is that I've been really impressed with the consistency of his game this year. It's like he seems to be moving around the ice more freely.
Dreger: “He does.”
Ferraro: “That's all I care about. It was never his dedication. He never had the ability to shoot or want to score. It was never like that. For me, as he gets older, is he able to Moving on the ice. Now, damn, it looks like he can, he's having a great year.
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